In-flight Issue
COMPLAINT: Enough with the speeches

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Old Feb 13, 2008, 10:21 PM
roadwarrior666 roadwarrior666 is offline
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Ok, we all get it people. Fasten the seatbelt, put out the cigarette, bla bla. This whole speech that every airline does is redundant, lame and completely outdated. I mean, with security so strict, how in the hell am I supposed to smoke on a plane without a LIGHTER?????????

Nevermind that though, what about the joking. I am treated like a 3 year old with the "leave your seatbelt on until the captain says it's ok to take it off" crap, look....I am an ADULT, and I will decide my fate on my own thank you, I don't need seatbelt lessons. I don't stand in the aisle during takeoff and landing, so i think I'll be fine.

Then there's the has to be turned off like 3 hours before we land now...look people, an Ipod is NOT going to bring the ****ing plane down!

Instead of harassing me and my Ipod, go catch some actual terrorists..I'm just flying to work!

Now, for the worst part...the jokes! My phone is a BlackBerry, not a blueberry or a strawberry and you calling it a different fruit over the speaker at 6am is NOT funny in any way. I have to act serious with my Ipod, you can act serious during the 25 minute speech you give every time we all fly.

The bathroom is small....WE GET IT, no need for your lame attempt at a joke here either ok?? The "lavatory" or as I call it, the bathroom is actually not the size of my cell phone, so stop trying to be funny, because it's not working.

Look, let me on the plane, make all of the other idiots sit their ass down in less than 2 hours, and let's go already. No speeches, no attempt at jokes and leave me alone with my Ipod, it's not hurting anything, and I don't care to hear the screaming brat behind me. It's bad enough I have to smell the goddamn farts being cut by what seems to be 85% of people who ride this particular airline anyway..

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Old Feb 14, 2008, 1:59 AM
Corbel Corbel is offline
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Are you kidding me? I hope this is a joke. the FAA requires this. its for your safety. and as far as the seatbelt thing. Passengers have decided to get up and use the small bathrooms while the sign is on, get up, go, and while returning to their seat get hurt because we hit turbulance. your post is childish and immature, grow up.
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Old Feb 14, 2008, 2:43 AM
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Roadwarrior...are you like 12 years old...sounds like it. You are a real self centered jerk with an attitude problem. You are the type of person I absolutly love to deal with. You come to the airport where I work and mouth off at the gate like that, and I would have you and your IPOD hauled out of the airport by security. Grow the HELL up!!!
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Old Feb 14, 2008, 4:17 AM
roadwarrior666 roadwarrior666 is offline
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No, I am not joking and no I am not 12 years old and who ever said that I throw some kind of fit at the gate?

Look, you didn't listen to what I am saying. I don't care about the FAA regulations, and I'm not talking about getting hurt while standing during a flight.

In the past 10 months, I have flown about 100,000 miles, which means that I fly a lot. I understand there are rules, and I am not saying that I am above them. What I was saying is the whole thing is ridiculous and outdated.

About the smoking: My thing here is HOW could I possibly smoke on an airplane when TSA has made it impossible for me to get a lighter or matches on board an airplane? That's what I thought, so let's save 5 minutes of my day and skip that part.

Now lets look at the seatbelt issue: Am I saying I should not have to wear one? No, I am not. What I am saying is that I have a brain cell and I do not need to hear every single week, HOW to buckle the thing. Do you know how stupid this is?

You talk about the laws and my ignorance and you are missing the whole point. The point is that if you can't figure out on your own, without a 5 minute speech HOW to use a seatbelt, then you should not be allowed to fly on an airplane period!

Now about the Ipod. This is serious too, I don't know why you think I am posting for some stupid laugh...I fly a lot, I deal with the same crap twice a week, and it's ridiculous. So with that, I understand that "portable electronic devices, such as laptops, cell phones (blackberry, blueberry, strawberry) need to be turned off and stowed at this time." I get it dude!

I'm not saying that I can do what I want, and everyone else should do as they are told. What I am saying is that they are really irritating about how they tell you to turn it off. You are looking out the window or looking ahead and someone comes up to you, taps you on the shoulder and points to the ipod.

That is fine, but I find this scenario to not be the norm, and these people get excessive and point like some kind of cartoon character, as if the plane will crash with my Ipod on.

I am pointing out simple things to most, but to the weekly traveler these things are stupid and very annoying, and if the speech was a minute or two, fine, but I swear it gets longer every week, and I know what to do, so listening makes me nuts already.

Will an Ipod crash a plane? Of course it wont, and you know that. Airlines are messing around right now with having wireless internet on board certain planes. Some planes have the little TV sets in each seatback and the display stays on during takeoff and landing.

I am not an airplane engineer, but that does tell me that an electronic device isn't going to mess with the equipment. Also, I know someone who worked as a flight attendant for a while not very long ago.

The pilots know that you can leave your phone on and it will not mess with anything, so you need to chill the hell out dude! Do I leave my phone on? No I don't, I follow the rules because I don't want a goddamn hassle on my flight, but I do see that the rules are insanity at best, and the whole system from check-in to landing needs an overhaul because there are problems, and if you don't agree with that, then you don't fly enough.

I'm sorry if being "12 years old" and knowing that I could make changes in the airline industry that would make everyones experience flying better may scare you, because I sound so stupid according to you, but the fact is I could do it.

This is my whole point, which is this stuff is not that hard and the industry makes it into something so unpleasant it's a nightmare.

Look at how we board an airplane, and how long it takes these morons to just SIT DOWN. Me, I find my seat, and I sit down, and my seatbelt is on 20 minutes before anyone is telling me to put it on. See, I am ready to go, not ready to be told what to do.

Are you aware that something as simple as the way people board an aircraft would make things so much easier on everybody, but we don't even try anything new? We just do the same old thing, board from the rear, which gives no incentive to just find your seat and sit down.

Ok, I'm done with this, if you don't get it that's fine with me. I will never be thrown out of an airport because I don't make scenes on airplanes. I'm not stupid, I am frustrated so I typed it out. See the difference? Instead of being a **** like most people and throwing a fit ON the plane, I sit quietly, do as I am told and I come here and post about how stupid it is. It's called letting off steam dude, so write all day about how stupid I am because I know how to fasten a seatbelt and I know that you can't smoke on an airplane REGARDLESS of whether I am told or not!

In the end, a form of an IQ test should be given to all individuals that want to ever fly. Not a traditional test, but a test where someone answers questions like "do you know how to fasten a seatbelt?" Or "do you think farting on a sealed airplane is cool to do?" Or how about "with all of the smoking in public laws around today, do you think that smoking on an airplane is something that you may try to do?".

ANYONE who misses these questions will then fail the test, and they will have to wait a minimum of 10 years before they can fly. This way, I get to fly hassle free from these morons, and the speech goes away, and people can get off an airplane in a good mood, instead of exhausted because of what they had to put up with for hours.

Fact is, you don't get it at all. You saw an opportunity to call me 12 years old, and you took it without understanding what you are talking about, or taking into consideration that I flew 5000 miles a week for 7 straight months, so I know how certain things work in an area where I once knew nothing.

Ok, your turn to tell me about how the previous 20 paragraphs are written by a 12 year old idiot, and in the meantime why don't you do some constant, weekly flying and get back to me when you are so annoyed with the system that you see that you, a person with no experience in running anything related to an airline become convinced that you could do it better.

Until that happens, comment away but you don't know what you are talking about.
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Old Feb 16, 2008, 2:52 AM
Gromit801 Gromit801 is offline
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Do us all a big favor and stop flying. You're the kind of person that makes everyone else miserable.

You know perfectly well that they don't require anything to be turned off "three hours" before the plane lands. Very childish statement.

Get a new job, or move to LA. You're their kind of self centered jerk.
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Old Feb 16, 2008, 3:34 AM
roadwarrior666 roadwarrior666 is offline
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You sir, are the kind of idiot that makes my flights miserable, so you turning it around to make me look like the **** is insanity at best.

First, here's how I fly. I get on the plane, I sit down IMMEDIATELY and I am ready to go. I don't stand in the middle of the aisle holding everyone else up. I am the very definition of the perfect flyer chief, so do me a favor and find a second brain cell to rub together with your other one.

Finally, "three hours" is this thing that people that do have half a brain call an EXAGGERATION.

For the last time, I am talking about basic concepts and it's like talking to a bunch of Paris Hilton's. I won't explain that one, I'll let you tell me that you are not blonde or some other form of being a complete moron.
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Old Feb 16, 2008, 12:10 PM
Silent Bob Silent Bob is offline
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The thing is Road, you know the rules, you know what needs to be done when you arrive at the airport, when you go through security, when you board the plane, but you can't make the situation "about you" because its not about you, its about EVERYONE who decides to fly. Sit back and read what the hell you just said, why do "I" have to listen to that speech, why do "I" have to go through security, why do "I" have to deal with this? Sadly dude it's simply not about "you", plain and simple, so why are you making it about you? Because you fly every week things should change for you? HA!! Good luck with that!

You want change, how about next time you fly, "you" tell TSA you don't have a lighter or liquids and to just let you through, see how far that gets you. Or better yet, when you get on the plane and you see some dip lean his chair all the way back, "YOU" tell the dip to put it back up before flight attendents say anything. Oh and then tell the flight attendents that "YOU" don't wanna listen to their safety rules, because you know them by heart. If you succeed you let me know, but I highly doubt. Sorry dude things are not gonna change for YOU, even for someone who wants to make change, it's never gonna happen and you'll be considered a joke that everyone will laugh about for many a years to come.

Dude I'm just like you, I fly enough on a weekly basis and I have to deal with the same people each and every flight, I deal with the same situation each and every time, have to listen to that damn safety video each and every time. It sucks. We may get it, but there are other people who don't and believe it or not there are people who have NEVER flown in their life. What about children? can't blame them if they don't know the rules, but they need to know. The whole process of getting through the airline, getting through security, and hopefully getting a seat is something we'll just have to deal with. those rules, hey you may not like it but their here to stay, so why even bother complaining about it?

I know we're not supposed to poke fun at people, but this should get the award for the "Dumbest Complaint" ever, followed by the asian guy who gets "racially profiled", running third is "Couldn't get a napkin, but doesn't wanna get pink eye by using the bathroom tissues" guy.
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Old Feb 16, 2008, 7:10 PM
roadwarrior666 roadwarrior666 is offline
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Well, once again I have another simpleton who just doesn't get it. Fact is, it IS about me. I don't give a **** about any other travelers, I give a **** about ME, so you are wrong in saying that it's not about me.

It doesn't matter though, because I figured something out after this post. See, this is a site where you can COMPLAIN about airlines and whatnot, but when I do it, I'm either 12 years old, or up for a darwin award.

I realize that Horizon/Alaska flies quite a few places, but we know that as a general rule, most people that fly this airline go to a ****ty little dump called Seattle.

If I were to bet money that at least one of you were from said city, I would most likely win. I know Seattle pretty well, and this site is just an extention of Seattle Craigs list. It's a place where everyone can complain, but if you don't agree with what someone has to say, it goes right to name calling, and forcing your stupidity on ME.

One ******* suggested I just quit my job and move to LA. That's a good idea I guess. I could move to the second biggest dump in the U.S. or I could simply quit my six figure a year job. Makes perfect sense to do one of those fine choices doesn't it.

Look, this site is a place where people come to complain, so I complained. If you don't understand my complaint, then leave me the **** alone. It's called a rant...I am VENTING about what I, as in ME, consider insanity in air travel.

What I am NOT doing is giving a **** about what YOU have to say in any capacity.

You said that you fly a lot too, yet you hear these speeches and the morons who hold up security with their little bottles of crap, but you remain completely calm? Of course you do, because you are perfect, and I am just a traveler with a two digit IQ.

I give up, you win. I am stupid, you are smart. I don't know how to travel and you are an expert. I find lunacy in airports, you find a place full of morons to be a fun experience. I don't know anything, you know everything. I only think about me, you think about everybody, and you get hot chicks, and I masturbate 365 times a year.

Is that good enough? I can call you a simple person all day, and by simple I don't mean you like simple things in life, the little things if you will. What I do mean by "simple" is dumb.

So now, once again, I get to have more unpleasant flight experiences because you are simple minded.

I am very thankful that I have you to set me straight, and change my entire belief system, and I am not being sarcastic here, I actually mean that. I will no longer be annoyed by stupid people, I will simply become a stupid person and other stupid people will no longer annoy me. This won't be a far stretch, because after all, I am 12 and have already won your award for "Dumbest complaint ever" so I am well on my way to stardom.

Thank you for making my life rich and wonderful. Where would I be without people like you? Well, for starters I wouldn't be on the verge of insanity, but I have now changed because of your very wise words.

Thank you for my award, I will try to complain about more relavent topics from now on like how proficient the airline industry is so we can have great debates from now on.

Please don't respond to this, I am clearly stating that you have won, and you are better than I could ever hope to be, and thank you again for your insight on this riveting topic that started out as a complaint...on a website devoted to? Complaints!

You are a true genius
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Old Feb 17, 2008, 3:32 AM
Silent Bob Silent Bob is offline
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First this is a site devoted to complaints about specific airlines, not stupid stuff like "I don't like the speeches about safety blah, blah, blah." That's beyond stupid, to the point where it actually does make you look like an ******. You might wanna make the issue about you, but guess what, it will never, ever, EVER in your existence be about you. Thank god the world doesn't revolve around YOU or i wouldn't even consider suicide, i'd just do it. You wanna complain about security? Complain to TSA! You wanna complain about the speeches that you hear on every airline, on every plane, towards any destination? Complain to FAA, DOT, or whomever is responsible for making airlines have em. Dude your a joke and not even a funny one at that. You're the kind of joke that is so bad, people walk away in disgust. you're the kind of joke comedians won't touch because "it's too easy". You are right about one thing, security doesn't bother me, the safety speeches don't bother me either, if this bothers you so much, DRIVE. Why the hell would you wanna fly if this bothers you so much? hell it will take longer, but at least you know you'll get the seat the way you want it, listen to the music you want, you can stop when you want, eat when you want and the only security you'll have to deal with is highway patrol, but come on at best you get a ticket for speeding. Oh that's right because you read the big banner that says "complaint" you thought you'd vent on something EVERYONE has to deal with and NO ONE can avoid, yet we're the stupid, simple ones for calling you an "******". Get over yourself dude.

I also think this thread should be closed, I just think its beyond pointless.
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Old Feb 17, 2008, 6:13 AM
Gromit801 Gromit801 is offline
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Roadwarrior666 is a forum troll. And has been reported accordingly.
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Folks, please keep it clean and do not insult other members, no matter how much you disagree with their point of view. We respect everyone's Freedom of Speech here at but we also expect everyone to communicate with a certain level of decency and respect. Please feel free to disagree with other members but without being rude.

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Old Feb 23, 2008, 8:43 PM
azgilbertboi azgilbertboi is offline
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"..asian guy who gets racially profiled," & "..Couldn't get a napkin, but doesn't wanna get pink eye by using the bathroom tissues guy."? Wow, I got third place! You know, people arent always going to have the awsome complaints, Silentbob, that you are waiting to come across. Yah, people get sick and tired of listening to announcements and yes it is legitiment to still have to say them. Others might feel they have been racially profiled or are just making an accuse. Some people dont want to rub their eyes with something that has a very high chance of fecal matter and urine on it. Where is your thread? I could probably point out many things that are dumb on yours too. There is always two ways to look at things no matter what.
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Old Mar 8, 2008, 4:37 AM
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I understand that you fly often, and know the rules. It is an FAA regulations that they make that speech. Not everybody flies as often as you do, and some people need to hear that speech. If you know what to do, then don't listen to the speech. As far as turning your IPOD off. Electronic devices being turned off are an FAA regulation as well. The airlines don't do this stuff just to inconvenience people. If someone from the FAA is onboard the airplane, observing, which does happen, and the airline doesn't make the safety speech, or allows passengers to keep cell phones, etc. on, then they will receive massive fines, etc.
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Old Mar 11, 2008, 10:25 PM
roadwarrior666 roadwarrior666 is offline
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You are from Seattle, and honestly that's all I needed to know.

Only people from Seattle use the word "******" and only people from Seattle think that saying is "funny."

Also, only people from Seattle find ANY excuse to argue with ANYBODY on earth who has a different opinion than theirs.

Don't write back chief, you are from Seattle which means anything you have to say is going to be completely insane, and not in a good way, but in a Seattle creepy, lame way.


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Old Jan 5, 2012, 9:43 PM
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Originally Posted by pattis View Post
Roadwarrior...are you like 12 years old...sounds like it. You are a real self centered jerk with an attitude problem. You are the type of person I absolutly love to deal with. You come to the airport where I work and mouth off at the gate like that, and I would have you and your IPOD hauled out of the airport by security. Grow the HELL up!!!
Typical unprofessional airline employee attitude, using your position as a power hungry Nazi to berate and harass, escalating situations because you are lacking in the appropriate social skills..wait, were you picked on in high school??? No wonder you chose this line of work. Hiding behind an anonymous post reveals the true intention of you and your ilk. And as for "absolutly loving (sic) to deal with...", no **** Shirlock, those of us who have paid thousands of dollars in airfare to be treated like dirt by shills like you have already figured out that you LOVE confrontation!!!!
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