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jimworcs Dec 14, 2009 11:25 PM

Troy....

Here you go, shall we swap definitions ad infinitum? It's transportation and the public travel on it.

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Wikipedia English - The Free Encyclopedia
Public transport
Public transport, public transportation, public transit or mass transit comprise all transport systems in which the passengers do not travel in their own vehicles. While the above terms are generally taken to include rail and bus services, wider definitions might include scheduled airline services, ferries, taxicab services etc. — any system that transports members of the general public. A further restriction that is sometimes applied is that transit should occur in continuously shared vehicles, which would exclude taxis that are not shared-ride taxis.


Silent Bob Dec 15, 2009 1:07 AM

Yeeaaaaaaa..... let's trust the one source, that if we used it for say "education" we'd be given an automatic "F" for citing it as a source, ya know... since Wikipedia can be altered and such. Now if you wanna use a reputable source, why not try "Britannica Online" which has a nice piece on Public or "Mass" transportation, and unless I skimmed it entirely, it does not say anything about air travel, but please correct me if I am wrong. (also the site might give an annoying pop up every few seconds asking you to join up, but you close that and continue reading)

http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/...4/mass-transit

to quote a phrase from the article:

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mass transit also called mass transportation, or public transportation


the movement of people within urban areas using group travel technologies such as buses and trains. The essential feature of mass transportation is that many people are carried in the same vehicle (e.g., buses) or collection of attached vehicles (trains). This makes it possible to move people in the same travel corridor with greater efficiency, which can lead to lower costs to carry each person or—because the costs are shared by many people—the opportunity to spend more money to provide better service, or both.

The_Judge Dec 15, 2009 8:45 AM

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Originally Posted by jimworcs (Post 14005)
Troy....

Here you go, shall we swap definitions ad infinitum? It's transportation and the public travel on it.

No, let's not. I give up. I'm gonna be 100% pro-consumer from now on. My head hurts from banging it on the wall. And yes, airplanes are public transportation. The pubic travels on them thus.........public transportation.

jimworcs Dec 15, 2009 1:10 PM

See Troy.. see how easy that was!!

PHXFlyer Dec 15, 2009 1:41 PM

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Originally Posted by The_Judge (Post 14017)
No, let's not. I give up. I'm gonna be 100% pro-consumer from now on. My head hurts from banging it on the wall. And yes, airplanes are public transportation. The pubic travels on them thus.........public transportation.

So I guess that cruise ships are public transportation as well? How about gondolas and ski lifts? I guess we can include the Monorail at Disney World too! :D

Gromit801 Dec 15, 2009 4:55 PM

Public Transportation = Publicly funded.
Private Transportation = Privately owned.

Why is that so hard to understand?

jimworcs Dec 15, 2009 7:00 PM

Gromit,
By your logic the Tokyo Metro system is not public transportation and neither are British trains...

Phx,
I think the monorail is public transportation and so are ferries

why can't you all just give up like Troy.. it is so much easier. Just accept I am right and move on...

Butch Cassidy Slept Here Dec 16, 2009 3:01 AM

Ten-seater Cessna's vs. 737s / Private vs. Public
 
Gromit wrote…

Public Transportation = Publicly funded.
Private Transportation = Privately owned.

In addition to Jim’s example of many UK train lines being “private,” according to Gromit, one, using Gromit’s argument, could say Air Force One is “public” transportation because it is “publicly funded.” Does that mean I can sit in Michelle’s seat the next time the President is flying somewhere??

While airlines, in the US, are privately owned the legal theory of “a man’s home is his castle” does NOT appear to impose the same restrictions on rights of airline passengers and cargo customers one would experience if they were a guest in someone’s private home. How much of his “castle” a private property owner can keep, according to one US Supreme Court decision, rides on the degree to which said owner’s use of his property impacts on the public interest. In Munn v. Illinois (1877), the majority held:

(when one puts his) property to a use in which the public has an interest, he, in effect, grants to the public an interest in that use, and must submit to be controlled by the public for the common good…” *

Thus, if one owns an airline, and said airline is “…controlled by the public for the common good…”, as all US-registered airlines are, how then are US-based airlines NOT “public transportation??”

* http://www.answers.com/topic/munn-v-illinois

PHXFlyer Dec 16, 2009 11:14 AM

Tell ya what. Buy some stock in an airline (I own shares of Alaska Air Group) and then you can call the shots!

Gromit801 Dec 16, 2009 3:33 PM

Butch, why stop twisting words now?

Does the government call Air Force One (or any military flights) Public Transportation? Not that I've heard.

The_Judge Dec 18, 2009 1:46 AM

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Originally Posted by jimworcs (Post 14023)
See Troy.. see how easy that was!!


Maybe not the only switching I'll be doing. :cool:

rerere Mar 31, 2010 8:17 PM

I don't see how this is Alaska Airline's falt.


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